Alex Hafner Talks K-Drama 'When The Stars Gossip' on NETFLIX

[00:00:10] Alex, thank you for joining me today on Pop Culture Unplugged. Thank you, Elias.

[00:00:15] Excited times, my friend. We got One of the Stars Gossip, Netflix. Is it mid-February? They haven't really been going back and forth with the dates. Do you have an exact date for that?

[00:00:24] I think it starts because it's like a part TV, part online streaming. So I think they start on the 4th of January, but then it's two episodes every week until the end of February.

[00:00:40] Because I know when I was doing some research, I saw that they were going back and forth with a couple of dates when they want to get it going.

[00:00:46] Right, like there was another because it's done by Studio Dragon or TVN and they released this other Netflix show called Queen of Tears.

[00:00:54] And they did that like three weeks later. They did like a binge, like bingeable set of like six episodes or something.

[00:01:01] And then we with weekly episodes. But yeah, who knows? Maybe they changed their mind.

[00:01:06] Right, right. As long as it comes out and people watch it, that's all that matters.

[00:01:11] From the trailers I've seen, it seems like it's January 4th everywhere.

[00:01:16] So you had an incredible journey. I was doing some research on you too.

[00:01:19] You've done Cable Girls, Malarca Files, Vampire Academy.

[00:01:23] How would you describe your career evolution so far?

[00:01:28] It's definitely been like, you know, before I lived in LA, I studied acting in LA.

[00:01:33] And then just life, man, you know, like you kind of go path of least resistance.

[00:01:39] And there was this moment where it seemed like I was getting more work in Europe.

[00:01:42] So then I kind of just, and I have family in Europe, so it makes it easy to get family someplace.

[00:01:48] So then I've just kind of ventured out and I kind of, my niche, I suppose, would be like, you know, all these sort of co-productions with people where they need people with multiple passports or things like that.

[00:02:01] And there you go. I'm your guy.

[00:02:05] Looking back at, you know, your career and previous roles, was there a specific character or project that shaped you to the actor you are today?

[00:02:13] Oh, man. That's a tough question.

[00:02:19] Yeah, I mean, for sure, there was a, like, obviously your first, my first work with a prominent director, I did this small role on a Ridley Scott movie called The Counselor.

[00:02:30] And that's kind of like a, more than anything, it's like a confidence validation, you know, like when it's a big director that, you know, has you on their set.

[00:02:40] And then they take time to explain their vision, even if it's just, you know, 30 minutes because you're only on set for like one day.

[00:02:50] It's kind of like, it gives you, at least for me, what I felt like I was missing in the earlier part of my career was some sort of confidence as far as like, you know, you can do this, go, you know, go forward.

[00:03:03] Especially because I don't have any family that's in performing arts.

[00:03:07] So it was very kind of a soul journey.

[00:03:11] So what made you get into acting then?

[00:03:13] Because, you know, most guests that I have on, you know, they have somebody that's worked in the entertainment industry that kind of pushed them.

[00:03:19] Like, what made you get into it?

[00:03:20] Well, when I was a kid, I lived in L.A.

[00:03:23] I went to school in L.A.

[00:03:25] And my mother had signed me up for, you know, I did a lot of commercials and things like that.

[00:03:31] I got close on several projects when I was a child.

[00:03:33] And then my parents moved away.

[00:03:37] And then after college, I turned on the TV and I saw an old friend of mine from school on a show, Amber Stevens.

[00:03:45] She was on this show called Greek.

[00:03:46] It was like a, you know, like a frat show on ABC, I think it was.

[00:03:50] And I was like, oh, I should have studied this.

[00:03:54] What am I doing?

[00:03:56] So then, yeah.

[00:03:57] So it was really that.

[00:04:00] And because I kind of felt that what I had studied before, I studied chemistry and chemical engineering.

[00:04:05] And I felt that that wasn't my thing, you know.

[00:04:08] And because I was living in Minnesota at the time, it's just easy to, you know, go in a different direction, I guess.

[00:04:17] You've been all over, huh?

[00:04:18] Minnesota, L.A., Madrid.

[00:04:20] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:04:21] Korea.

[00:04:21] I was in Korea for a year to do this.

[00:04:24] Yeah, I really like having to travel.

[00:04:26] I think that's like my favorite part of this business is when it's someplace really remote.

[00:04:34] And not that Korea is really remote.

[00:04:36] I mean, I've done, I think the most remote place I've ever shot in was Georgia, the country.

[00:04:42] Because it's like so off the beaten path that, you know, I'd otherwise never really go and visit.

[00:04:47] And you get to see and, you know, experience things that maybe you otherwise wouldn't, which I think is really cool.

[00:04:53] It's like the most, what do you call it?

[00:04:56] The fulfilling part for me.

[00:05:02] So being based in Madrid, like how do you balance the opportunities between, you know, European cinema and TV and like, you know, all over the world?

[00:05:10] Like how do you balance it?

[00:05:11] How do you decide what you want to do?

[00:05:15] Uh, I don't know.

[00:05:16] You kind of just, luckily with the Korean show, for example, I have a lot of airline miles.

[00:05:23] So it's very easy for me to go out on a whim, you know, like, oh, you have to go to LA or New York or something for an audition.

[00:05:29] And I can do that because I have tons of airline miles.

[00:05:32] Thank God.

[00:05:33] Or if you find that, if you happen to find a cheap ticket, then it's okay, you know.

[00:05:38] But, but yeah, kind of just that.

[00:05:40] And like being resourceful, I guess you're good at, you learn to kind of like, uh, if any friends come visit here, they can always stay at my place.

[00:05:47] And if I go to New York, I can, you know, stay at a friend's place or in LA, I have family.

[00:05:52] So I stay in LA.

[00:05:55] But yeah, that kind of stuff.

[00:05:56] So it helps.

[00:05:57] It helps.

[00:05:58] It's not as useful early in your career as it is like now.

[00:06:03] Now it's really useful for me to have all this stuff now that I've done more, more work.

[00:06:07] Yeah.

[00:06:07] Do you feel like there's more opportunities because you're based out of like Europe?

[00:06:12] No, not really.

[00:06:13] In fact, I usually feel like I'm missing out on stuff because sometimes there's so much that all the big decisions get made in, made in LA.

[00:06:21] But, uh, but, but yeah, I mean, I'm kind of open to wherever it's the, the plus of having both, you know, American and Spanish citizenships.

[00:06:32] I don't have to worry about visas or, or, you know, that kind of stuff because that's usually a big factor for other people.

[00:06:39] Do you have like a dream role or a type of project that you ever done that you want to explore someday?

[00:06:44] Hmm.

[00:06:45] I guess I'd like to play a historical figure.

[00:06:48] I mean, the cable girls, I kind of did kind of like my character on the cable girls was a Ernest Hemingway type character, except they didn't call him Ernest Hemingway.

[00:06:58] And they changed a lot of stuff, you know, for the fact, for the, for the show.

[00:07:02] And I'd like to do a historical, like, or like a Western, you know, I've been recently watching Yellowstone and that kind of makes me want to like have a hat and be like, boy, let's get on them horses.

[00:07:16] The way Taylor shared it is going, who knows?

[00:07:18] You might have a chance.

[00:07:19] He loves pumping these projects out.

[00:07:22] Yeah.

[00:07:23] So, yeah, I mean, I'm open to trying new things.

[00:07:26] I mean, this, this Korean show kind of, it was like a manifest thing, manifestation in a way, because I'd been working on Vampire Academy and the actors that, that was shot in Spain, Vampire Academy.

[00:07:40] And I was a local hire in Spain for this.

[00:07:43] And, and some of the guys from the U.S., they'd been there for, I was there for the second half of the show.

[00:07:49] But all the leads, they'd been there, you know, six, seven months or something.

[00:07:53] And I thought, oh, that would be so cool to be part of a show where I had to travel someplace really far in a different culture.

[00:08:01] There's a lot of, like several of them hadn't been to Spain before.

[00:08:03] And I was like, oh, that'd be so nice.

[00:08:05] And then about a month later, I got this opportunity to go to Korea.

[00:08:10] I was like, oh, my God.

[00:08:11] I remember thinking about this and like meditating about it.

[00:08:15] And then it happened.

[00:08:17] So, yeah, yeah.

[00:08:18] It was amazing.

[00:08:18] So did you get like a phone call or something?

[00:08:19] Like we might have a part for you and want you to audition.

[00:08:22] How did that happen?

[00:08:23] It was, I was, I'm quite a foodie.

[00:08:27] So I went with a friend to Italy for my birthday.

[00:08:30] We did like a foodie trip with one of my best friends around like Lake Como and Milan and stuff.

[00:08:36] And I was convinced I was going to get, I'd been auditioning for this other show.

[00:08:40] And I was convinced because I'd sent in several tapes.

[00:08:42] This is still like COVID times.

[00:08:43] So there's a lot of like self tapes.

[00:08:46] And like my agent was like, oh, tape yourself for this thing in Korea.

[00:08:51] I was like, yeah, right.

[00:08:52] You know, like not even on my radar, Korea.

[00:08:54] And it was like a, it was a, it was a funny translation because it wasn't like, there's a lot of loss in translation.

[00:09:01] Like, so it wasn't an official translation of the script.

[00:09:03] So it felt really wacky when I was reading it.

[00:09:05] I was like, what is this?

[00:09:07] And they're like, no, it's a space show.

[00:09:09] And I kind of had this sort of like, oh, it must be like a Wes Anderson vibe, you know, like really sort of this sort of strange parody cookie cutter.

[00:09:17] That's what it felt like, what it read like.

[00:09:19] So I kind of was like, oh, whatever.

[00:09:20] I'll just shoot it and be done with it and go for lunch, you know?

[00:09:24] And then, yeah.

[00:09:25] And then it was a direct booking.

[00:09:28] Like it wasn't even, sometimes you, in the process of this, especially during COVID, you tape and then you have, you know, a Zoom meeting with a director.

[00:09:38] And then you kind of do like, if it kind of like if it was in person, you know, and they give you some feedback and you tape it again.

[00:09:46] And maybe you're recording it with your phone so that they can have like a high quality recording for it.

[00:09:50] And then you send that in.

[00:09:51] And, but none of that happened.

[00:09:54] And it was, you know, it's one of the main roles on the show.

[00:09:56] So, okay.

[00:09:57] I sent in this 30 second, 40 second clip.

[00:10:00] And yeah, sometimes when it's, you know, when it's for you, it's for you.

[00:10:03] So, yeah.

[00:10:05] What can you tell us about the character of Santiago?

[00:10:08] And how does he fit in the storyline with this?

[00:10:11] Well, my character is based off of some literature in space.

[00:10:17] There was, let's see if I don't butcher this.

[00:10:22] There was an astronaut that discovered that his sperm was fertile in zero gravity.

[00:10:30] And Korea is the country that has the lowest, what do you call it, birth rate in the world.

[00:10:37] So, it's like a big deal because they have a very aging population.

[00:10:41] Also in Japan, this is happening.

[00:10:43] Very aging population.

[00:10:45] And they don't have anybody new kind of to like keep it.

[00:10:48] It's not like the U.S. where there's, you know, there's people, there's immigration and there's like a birth rate.

[00:10:54] You know, in some of the other parts of the world, it's kind of like in decay.

[00:10:57] And so, this show is essentially about that.

[00:11:00] And my character is somebody who goes to space because he's obsessed with trying to have a kid.

[00:11:10] Yet, being in space keeps him away from his potential family.

[00:11:14] So, it's an interesting contradiction.

[00:11:17] And I think that's kind of the whole basis of the show, in my opinion.

[00:11:21] Is that despite trying to find a solution, you know, out there, the real questions are always come from within.

[00:11:30] You know, so.

[00:11:31] What did you learn being like on set with like, you know, an established Korean talent also?

[00:11:36] Oh, that was very interesting because they have a totally different way of working.

[00:11:42] You know, everybody has their own, especially Mino and Hyojin.

[00:11:45] They're like these huge stars over there.

[00:11:47] They have their own, people have their own team.

[00:11:51] Like their own makeup artists, their own stylists.

[00:11:54] And they kind of come in with their whole like entourage of people.

[00:11:58] Like, you know, like maybe Mino had like a team of like eight, nine people with him and same with Hyojin.

[00:12:06] And yeah, it was very interesting to learn.

[00:12:08] You know, they even had their own set photographers.

[00:12:10] I had my own.

[00:12:11] At one point, I was like, oh yeah?

[00:12:13] Then I'm going to have it too.

[00:12:14] And I found my own photographer.

[00:12:16] I brought my own set photographer.

[00:12:20] But yeah, it's for this particular, but they have very, very long shooting hours in Asia.

[00:12:30] But for this particular show where it takes a long time to, you have to put on these harnesses to do this mimic the zero gravity.

[00:12:37] Yeah.

[00:12:38] And by the time you get everybody, especially when it's a group scene, when there's like six of us, there's six of us in space.

[00:12:45] Whenever it was a group scene, that would take a really long time to shoot.

[00:12:48] And sometimes you think, oh man, if we were shooting this in Europe, this would take, you know, three times longer.

[00:12:54] Because by the time everybody gets, you know, somebody wants to go to the bathroom, they have to take all the harness, everything out.

[00:13:01] You got to get off of the, like, soundstage where they had the, they had a copy.

[00:13:06] We used four different soundstages and they had an exact replica of the space station, you know, in each section.

[00:13:14] One section was kind of like the sort of Russian module.

[00:13:17] The other one was the American European module.

[00:13:19] And then there was like, you know, some of these other attachments.

[00:13:22] It was, yeah, it's very, very, very interesting.

[00:13:26] Very, very different, but very cool.

[00:13:28] And since I was the only, the most particular part for me, especially was, I was the only Westerner on the show.

[00:13:35] So I definitely felt like very lost in translation, especially in the beginning of the show.

[00:13:43] Because not that many people speak English and Lost in Translation is one of my favorite movies.

[00:13:48] And I definitely felt some of the, some of the, you know, some of the notes I'd get in the beginning from the director.

[00:13:56] You know, this really long, I haven't seen Lost in Translation where he's getting the Westerner on the show.

[00:14:00] And it's like this really long sort of metaphoric thing, way of speaking.

[00:14:04] And, you know, and then somebody would tell me, well, you just have to do it again.

[00:14:08] And he's like, really?

[00:14:11] That's not what he said.

[00:14:12] So, so yeah.

[00:14:14] But it was a, yeah, very, very enriching.

[00:14:19] And I would definitely do it again.

[00:14:20] In fact, I'm learning Korean.

[00:14:21] I'd love to, you know, shoot on, work on something again in Korea.

[00:14:25] They're very, when they have like, they're very go for it mentality, which I think is very admirable.

[00:14:30] You mentioned the space station.

[00:14:32] Did they bring anybody on set to try to like, train you guys?

[00:14:35] Like how to act with certain scenes or like actually being on space?

[00:14:39] Yeah, they had a, there's a Korean astronaut, Yi Soyeon.

[00:14:43] Soyeon Yi.

[00:14:45] And she was the only Korean astronaut who's actually been in space.

[00:14:51] And, and she was in space, I think for a month or two months.

[00:14:55] And so she came on set to like, answer questions and things.

[00:14:59] And then the director made, I don't know, I'm sure he made everybody else watch, but he made me watch.

[00:15:05] There was a documentary about like, because he wanted to be very realistic with the whole space movement.

[00:15:14] And so I watched a lot of documentaries just to see how the, you know, especially just focusing on the like movement, you know,

[00:15:21] because everything had to be like, especially in space, you can't like push off the way here, the way you push off here.

[00:15:27] Cause you have something, you know, to stop you really quick.

[00:15:29] But there, if you just push off all of a sudden, you know, you have nowhere to attach.

[00:15:34] So, yeah.

[00:15:36] So the, the first part, the first three months of the show were very tough because there was a lot of like, cut, no, you pushed off.

[00:15:43] It doesn't look real, you know, this type of stuff.

[00:15:46] And then the harnesses themselves, the most, the, the closest you'd feel to zero gravity was when you're wearing one of these forks with a sort of, there's two ways of doing zero gravity.

[00:15:57] You're either hanging on a wire with a, with a vest.

[00:16:01] And you can either, you can be hanging vertical or horizontal, or they had these sort of, these harnesses that had like a cylinder thing.

[00:16:10] And you could spin around on them on a fork and on this like massive fork.

[00:16:14] And that fork was hung on a wire.

[00:16:16] And you had some other people, some green guys, you know, on the other side, kind of like moving you around.

[00:16:21] And that felt very zero gravity.

[00:16:24] You know,

[00:16:25] Did you get sick?

[00:16:26] No, no.

[00:16:28] But the, apparently the, the, the, the astronaut, this is Soyeon was saying that, that it's a very, it feels like you constantly want to vomit in space.

[00:16:39] So it's very, it's a very peculiar feeling.

[00:16:42] And because you know that it's so special, you, you, you're okay with it.

[00:16:47] But if it was like that all the time, it would be very difficult.

[00:16:51] So, so yeah, so, which is okay because the harnesses would hurt after a while.

[00:16:54] So you'd be very uncomfortable, you know, like, yeah, you could move well, but you'd be like, oh, I'm dying in pain.

[00:17:00] Would you say this was the hardest challenge for you to film this?

[00:17:03] For sure.

[00:17:04] For sure.

[00:17:05] For sure.

[00:17:05] And the, the, you know, in the summer, it's very hot.

[00:17:08] If you're wearing a space suit, you start to sweat and it, despite, and they'd have air conditioning full blast, but it's just, you know, sometimes the materials, the hours, the hanging.

[00:17:20] You know, you want to do the scene and maybe something is off on your harness all of a sudden.

[00:17:26] And you're like, okay, if I stop this, it's going to take like three hours longer, you know, between the time they take me down, we fix the harnesses.

[00:17:35] So I'm just going to hold onto this for like 30 minutes more.

[00:17:38] And then the next day you'd have like, uh, uh, you know, you'd be more in pain, but it was okay.

[00:17:45] They had the one cool thing they had was they had a massage room on the onset.

[00:17:49] Yeah.

[00:17:49] So you'd have these different sort of massage, you know, those automatic, like fancy massage beds.

[00:17:54] So there's that.

[00:17:55] And then we all had massage like Theraguns and, um, yeah.

[00:18:01] And then the cool thing in Korea was, uh, acupuncture is part of their, uh, it's like covered by medical insurance.

[00:18:09] So I'd go anytime I had any sort of pain, I'd be the next day I'd be at the acupuncture clinic.

[00:18:13] And that, that makes you feel amazing the next day.

[00:18:18] So yeah, it was nice.

[00:18:20] So the show explores, like, you know, themes of love and destiny.

[00:18:23] Like what kind of message do you hope like the audience takes away from the series when they tune in?

[00:18:30] Uh, I think that, that you can find some, maybe that you've fallen in love in the most unexpected places.

[00:18:37] You know, like, I think that's kind of the premise of the show.

[00:18:40] Uh, and, um, and maybe it's also that it's a lot closer to you than you think.

[00:18:48] You know, sometimes people think, oh, I can't fall in love because, you know, I have all this, but that's really just your own mental barrier.

[00:18:54] You know, yeah, I think so.

[00:18:57] I think that's my character's journey is kind of also one of maybe self-love, um, within, uh, the conflicts that happen or the things that arise.

[00:19:08] I'm trying not to like give a spoiler.

[00:19:10] Can you imagine?

[00:19:11] Um, yeah, so for sure.

[00:19:15] Um, and I think there's a value, uh, especially when, well, it's the same thing that happens when you work with people.

[00:19:24] You're on a project for a year or something.

[00:19:25] There's kind of this, there comes a point where you value the relationship you have with the people that you work with much more than the result of whatever it is that you're actually doing.

[00:19:35] And that oddly makes the result better.

[00:19:38] Um, so I think.

[00:19:41] What did, what did you love about Santiago?

[00:19:43] Is there anything you would change about him if you could?

[00:19:46] Um, no, because I thought, I thought he's like the best version that I could.

[00:19:54] What could possibly be?

[00:19:55] You know, like all these astronauts, all these people that go to space, they're like really excellent people.

[00:20:00] They like live in, in sort of this, you know, conditions of extreme excellence.

[00:20:07] They're like, you know, soy on the astronaut.

[00:20:11] She was like, uh, uh, engineer, you know, from, I forget what university, but some like Ivy league or top university.

[00:20:19] And, and then, um, and then they're in this program and then within the program, only like the best of that program actually go to space, you know?

[00:20:29] So it's like this just, uh, yeah.

[00:20:33] It's just like the best of the best.

[00:20:36] And I thought, wouldn't it be cool if I got to try to play a character that's similar?

[00:20:40] I mean, there's obviously things that are, that are different, you know, based on the script itself.

[00:20:45] But within that, the best version I could be of myself would be close to what the best version of this astronaut would be.

[00:20:53] Um, and yeah, so I thought that was interesting to play.

[00:20:57] Um, and it was super fun.

[00:20:59] I mean, yeah.

[00:21:01] Is there like a standout, like a moment during filming?

[00:21:05] Like you're always going to remember from this experience?

[00:21:08] Oh, definitely.

[00:21:09] The, I mean, it's like the least, uh, for sure.

[00:21:14] It's the least, um, what do you call it?

[00:21:15] Like glamorous part of the, of the shoot.

[00:21:19] I guess there are two.

[00:21:20] Um, one is like the beginning, the very first two, the first two episodes.

[00:21:26] It's, oh, the, you have to get the space, right?

[00:21:29] So you have to, we have to take the Soyuz, which is based off of the Russian rocket.

[00:21:33] Um, and so we, they had a copy of the, the cap, the Soyuz capsule.

[00:21:39] Right.

[00:21:39] And so it was just me, Hyojin and Mino for the first like two and a half, three months.

[00:21:45] And we were in this sort of really confined because they had the camera on a crane, you

[00:21:50] know?

[00:21:50] So there was like, we were sort of in this very sort of confined like space like this,

[00:21:55] you know, with, you know, me here, Mino, am I right?

[00:21:59] Hyojin and left.

[00:22:00] And we, like the most uncomfortable seat, you know, there for like all day.

[00:22:04] And, um, uh, so I have a very, but we became close because of that.

[00:22:09] So, um, uh, so I have a very fond memory of that, obviously.

[00:22:15] And then, and then, um, we were shooting one day, uh, this return to, to, um, return to

[00:22:23] earth and astronaut, when that happens, you're very dehydrated.

[00:22:26] And I totally misunderstood the like water, like, cause my, one of the gags in the show

[00:22:34] is like, my character's drinking all this water while this is going down.

[00:22:37] And at one point I thought that it's like a mid shot on me.

[00:22:41] And so I actually started drinking a ton of water and, um, I felt so sick.

[00:22:46] We had to stop the, we had to stop shooting and I had to go, we took a run.

[00:22:51] I took a run for like an hour.

[00:22:52] And then I went to go eat at like the saltiest tacaldi, which is like this chicken stirred

[00:22:59] chicken place.

[00:23:01] Because, because I totally misunderstood and, and everybody was really worried.

[00:23:06] I drank too much water.

[00:23:07] So I was like, no, no, no, it's okay.

[00:23:09] Um, I'll be back.

[00:23:10] Just give me like three hours and I'll be back and we can shoot all like my closeups drinking

[00:23:15] water.

[00:23:16] And I was like, damn, I have to go like sweat some of this out.

[00:23:19] And yeah.

[00:23:20] Um, so I definitely, yeah, that was, that was, uh, that was definitely a interesting moment.

[00:23:26] And obviously the casting scene.

[00:23:27] So the, the, the scene I shot in the, to shoot, uh, to like for the audition scene, which was

[00:23:33] like a 30 second version of a really, of actually a much longer scene.

[00:23:37] Um, when we shot it, uh, you know, in on set, like, you know, with all the, with all the

[00:23:45] decoration and like the space station and stuff, it felt very, like this very full circle moment

[00:23:50] of like, wow, how different is this from when?

[00:23:54] Cause I, then we, we'd rehearsed that scene.

[00:23:56] Cause that was one of the first scenes that we were shooting, like in the, with like movement,

[00:24:00] like moving around the space, like not in the, not in the rocket, but in the actual

[00:24:04] space station.

[00:24:06] And so it kind of had like these three references of shooting this.

[00:24:08] And then, so yeah, it'd be interesting to see what it looks like at the end.

[00:24:12] Um, I'm excited.

[00:24:14] Uh, last question on the series.

[00:24:16] I know we can't talk spoilers, but could you see a season two?

[00:24:19] Could you see a continuation in the story?

[00:24:21] Yeah.

[00:24:22] Yeah.

[00:24:22] Yeah.

[00:24:23] Yeah.

[00:24:23] Um, usually Korean shows are like the other ones I've seen.

[00:24:26] They're usually kind of intended to have just one season, but they leave enough cliffhangers

[00:24:31] and this one totally there's, I can't spoil the show, but they're not going to be a season.

[00:24:35] You could definitely have, uh, season two that is in, I mean, you could use the same sets,

[00:24:43] but it would be totally different.

[00:24:44] Uh, totally different setup for the, yeah.

[00:24:49] I can't say more.

[00:24:50] Cause it's such, that'd be such a huge spoiler.

[00:24:52] They'd kill me.

[00:24:53] They'd be like, we're never working with this guy again.

[00:24:55] And you know, like the Tom Holland when he does, I feel like there was this very famous

[00:24:59] thing of him like spoiling, uh, uh, like a movie poster.

[00:25:03] Like they'd sent a movie poster like three months before it came out and he was like

[00:25:07] unboxing it and showing it and all the fans were like, oh, that's a poster.

[00:25:11] You don't want to do that.

[00:25:12] You don't want to do that.

[00:25:14] Alex, uh, what's next for, you know, any other projects you'd like to tell us about before

[00:25:17] we end this, uh, chat?

[00:25:18] Uh, I got, well, there's some stuff in the works, but nothing like confirmed.

[00:25:22] Um, there's one project I might do, uh, but you know, you never know.

[00:25:28] Uh, and, and then I'm really excited with this.

[00:25:31] I'm actually excited that I don't have anything like too set in stone because I'm excited about

[00:25:36] what, you know, what this show might bring.

[00:25:39] So I'm, yeah.

[00:25:40] Yeah.

[00:25:41] So I'm just there.

[00:25:42] There you go.

[00:25:44] Fanning out.

[00:25:45] Alex, uh, let's send this by a huck and now the viewers and listeners, I'm sure you're

[00:25:48] going to get a lot more fans to follow you on social media.

[00:25:51] How can they find you?

[00:25:51] Uh, well, I'm on Instagram.

[00:25:55] I think I'm on Instagram, Instagram and X is my username is the Alex Hafner.

[00:26:02] I like, anyway, this is a different story.

[00:26:04] And then on, and then on TikTok, I think it's just Alex Hafner, but I don't use TikTok that

[00:26:08] much, but I will start using TikTok.

[00:26:10] It's my, my goal for the new year.

[00:26:14] Get where the times.

[00:26:16] Alex, I want to thank you for giving a few minutes today.

[00:26:19] Good luck with the series.

[00:26:20] And like I said, hopefully I think it's going to do well.

[00:26:22] Yeah.

[00:26:23] I hope so too.

[00:26:23] Yeah.

[00:26:23] I'm excited.

[00:26:24] I'm excited.

[00:26:24] I mean, like the stuff that I've seen when I went to go do the ADR looked great.

[00:26:28] And, uh, all of the, all of the CG stuff was like, is good, which sometimes with these

[00:26:34] shows, you know, it's like, it kind of, for me, at least it makes or breaks.

[00:26:38] Like if all of a sudden it looks like a video game, then you're like, but they did like,

[00:26:44] they've been working on it forever.

[00:26:45] There's almost two years of post-production.

[00:26:46] So, um, so yeah, yeah.

[00:26:49] I'm excited.

[00:26:50] So.

[00:26:50] Yay.

[00:26:50] Yay.

[00:26:51] Yay.

[00:26:51] Yay.